Discussion in 'Technology' started by bfun, Jun 9, 2020.

  1. Here are some leaked images of the new RTX 3080. I like the new cooler design but some websites have estimated that it will cost about $150 to make, which means card prices will be high. My bet is Nvidia releases these as a founders edition before the 3rd party design are allowed to sell.

  2. #2 cmdrmonkey, Jun 9, 2020
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2020
    I'm still rocking a 1070, which seems to be fine for current games. I'm curious what these cards will bring to the table. But I can't see upgrading to anything until after the new consoles come out. Most games are multi-platform, so the consoles will determine the system requirements for future games. Usually you need something that's a good bit more powerful than what the consoles are running to have a good experience on PC.
  3. I would think that the focus of these cards will be to minimise the performance hit with ray tracing enabled.
  4. Ray tracing was a marketing gimmick last gen to distract from the fact that Turing wasn't a real next gen card. Ampere will be different, and Nvidia claims it will kill the performance hit. Xbox, PS5, and AMD Navi will all have ray tracing and I'm sure Nvidia will want to outperform them all. My bet is that it will by a wide margin. But, I also think we'll start to see multiple levels of ray tracing performance. It's not clear if the human eye spot the difference between low and high levels of ray tracing. So, we might see something like PS5 at 40%, Xbox at 60%, Navi at 80%, and Nvidia at 100%. In the past, review sites would try to tell you which hardware produced the best visuals but now all they do is benchmarks. This resulted in both AMD and Nvidia reducing visual effects in order to raise FPS, which is the only thing anyone measures. Also, that Unreal Engine demo on the PS5 makes me wonder how much Ray Tracing will even be needed.
  5. #5 cmdrmonkey, Jun 10, 2020
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2020
    Exactly. Turing general gaming performance wasn't dramatically better than Pascal. Ray tracing was heavily promoted as a marketing tactic to try to get reluctant 10 series owners to upgrade. If the Steam hardware survey is anything to go by, it didn't work. The $300 RTX 2060 is the only RTX card in the top 10, and even it isn't that popular at just 2% of the market. The other more expensive RTX cards hardly sold. Few games support ray tracing yet, and the performance hit isn't worth it for the marginal improvement in image quality.
  6. Supposedly leaked pricing and specks. Not verified.

    • GeForce RTX 3090: $1399 - 60-90% faster than the GeForce RTX 2080 Ti
    • GeForce RTX 3080: $799 - 15-25% better than the RTX 2080 Ti
    • GeForce RTX 3070: $599 - Same as a 2080 Ti
    • GeForce RTX 3060: $399

    That 3070 pricing might be pretty good. Hard to say. The 3090 is insane. Supposedly 3090 review samples have already been shipped out but without drivers.
  7. So they’re sticking with all of the cards being overpriced by $200 just like with the RTX 2000 series. Meh.
  8. $800 for the RTX 3080? How much would a 3080 Super be? A grand? I'm fine for now. Hopefully AMD's cards are at least competitive and reasonably priced to get this pricing under control.
  9. #9 cmdrmonkey, Aug 31, 2020
    Last edited: Aug 31, 2020
    Yeah I’m still probably fine for another year or two with my 1070. Even though the new consoles are launching in a couple of months it will be a year or two before there are a lot of games out that require higher specs. Halo Infinite was the big game I was waiting for, but its development got messed up due to the pandemic and it was pushed back a year. A lot of games have had their development messed up by the pandemic. I’m fine waiting until there’s a reasonably priced option. I refuse to pay $600 for a midrange video card. NVidia can suck my balls.
  10. I think Nvidia is officially announcing the cards tomorrow.

  11. man that $600 blows the socks off of my 1080ti which still murders everything at 1440p to this day
  12. Official pricing. That 3070 looks really good. $500 and a good deal faster (on paper) than the 2080Ti. Seems like a great buy if the price sticks. That power usage, and presumably heat on the 3080 and 3090, will be intense.
    • GeForce RTX 3090: $1500
    • GeForce RTX 3080: $700
    • GeForce RTX 3070: $500
  13. I would hope that if AMD is competitive these prices will come down by another $50 to $100. I would buy a 3070 for $400.
  14. Supposedly, AMD's Navi is cheaper to make than Ampere so it's possible pricing will get competitive. $500 is still on the high-end but at least the price comes with an actual performance increase.
  15. The 3080 in the $700 range sounds more reasonable. $600 to $650 with a game in a holiday sale sounds a lot more like something I'd consider impulse buying. No way would I have paid $800 or more.
  16. According to Nvidia, I'd have to upgrade my PSU for the 3080. Since I don't plan to upgrade a $260 PSU, I'd either limit myself to a 3070 or check out AMDs offerings. These chips use a heck of a lot of power. My bet is they had to clock the 3080 high enough to beat the AMD flagship Big Navi. The 3090 will be the undisputed king and also have the distinction of being the second most power hungry single GPU card ever made.
  17. $260 for a psu? did psu prices skyrocket or something? in 2015, i got my corsair rmx 850 (850w 80+ gold cert) for $109
  18. I've heard they have gone up although not all the prices look too bad. I'm using a EVGA Supernova 650 G2. Newegg is currently selling it for $290. The 850 is going for $450. Looks like your Corsair is now $170.
  19. I have a Seasonic 1000W Platinum. It’s out of stock on Amazon but a reseller has it for $600. Just fucking lol dude. I think I paid all of about $170 for this PSU.
  20. I still have the same Corsair AX1200 I bought in mid 2011. It was $279.99 at the time, but I got another $25 off from a combo deal.