Dammit. Finally got my new internet to work, and now I need a Xbox 360 HDD to get live. Nothing is ever so simple for me.
So should we start taking bets on when the SNP will call a referendum for Scotland's independence? Will they have to remove the blue from the Union Flag if Scotland leaves the UK? In other news opinion polls seem to suggest that people said no to AV but we won't know for sure until later this evening.
The SNP are a mainstream party in Scotland that want the best for Scotland. The BNP are a more extremist party who focus on the huge problems Britain has with immigration, they are rightly known as a racist party but due to the sensitivity about immigration and the main parties too nervous to tackle it they are increasingly becoming an option for British people who are fed up with mass immigration and the problems it has caused. They are not the kind of people you want in power as they are a one issue party but until somebody else has the balls to stop mass immigration they will steadily increase in popularity.
It seems that your countries problems have little to do with immigration, and everything to do with ridiculous social welfare programs. Maybe politicians should focus on the cause instead of demonizing the effects. I know you have the mathematical skills of a racist hillbilly, but this is what is known as arbitrage. Intelligent people will ALWAYS exploit something for nothing when the opportunity presents itself. These Pakistani people are obviously some of the smartest people in the UK. The way to neutralize arbitrage scenarios is to closeout the opportunity, not try to get the opportunists one by one.
The problem here is you've almost fell for the propaganda. The truth is there are for more white people exploiting the benefits system in this country than immigrants and while our free healthcare, housing and benefits certainly do attract a lot of interest from abroad illegal immigrants are unable to claim by virtue of being "illegal". However this then sparks the other popular racist debate that these illegal workers are over here taking "our jobs" and not paying tax. As for the claims that Bradfords decline is due to immigration, I have to have a chuckle about that. Most people in Bradford look at the nice parts of Leeds, Wetherby and Harrogate and think that because those places don't have large asian communities then it's clearly the asians that are spoiling Bradford; the place has been a shit hole for a long time and it's decline was down to the towns entire economy being based on textiles which then died when it became cheaper and more effective to import made goods from abroad.
Ichi is almost right about Bradford but not quite, Bradford did heavily rely on the textile industry for the economy decades ago but the modern plight of Bradford is not down to the decline of said industry. The problem with Bradford today is that the city centre is dead and does not attract anybody in from neighbouring cities. There have been major attempts at regeneration such as the Westfield development but there is simply no demand for it. Major retail chains have withdrawn interest from such developments and the city centre looks like an abandoned building site. It only takes five minutes reading the local paper or even visiting the city centre to see why nobody wants to go there. Crime rates are high and I'm afraid the main culprits are pakistani youths. I used to go to the bowling alley or cinema etc. with my girlfriend but when you walk around and she is constantly harassed by asian perverts it is easier to travel to out of city developments where it is a lot safer. I have stopped reading the paper because it sickens me to read practically every week about white girls being raped by asian taxi drivers or sickos who wait outside nightclubs to spot a girl on her own who's had too much to drink. You also read all the time about gangs of asian drug dealers and organised crime. I know some of you will briefly read about Bradford on the net but you don't live here so none of you really know how it is. I promise anyone that after a week here you would agree with me 100%. The immigrants generally aren't illegal but arranged marriages keep people flooding in. I'm sure most of you have seen on the news a few times about westernised pakistani girls either being murdered by their own families or commiting suicide or just running away to avoid arranged marriage. I know most of you don't want to acknowledge it but these large asian communities degrade the areas they reside and I know that first hand. It's not just Bradford, look at Oldham and Birmingham where these communities are destroying once affluent areas. Feel free to prove me wrong, name one city where a large asian muslim community is beneficial.
@gaffer: you could say the same shit about plenty of economically depressed areas where white people are the majority.
Maybe it's religion that's the cause of the problems, lets face it religion has caused pretty much every war ever. Islam is an intollerant religion and if you're not muslim you're disregarded. Maybe that's why the pakistani people all live in large groups because they want their own society. You don't get the same problems with Indian people and India is next to pakistan, they're two very contrasting countries and people. Indians who live in England integrate very well with white people because they are tollerant, I had a few Indian friends at school and the only difference between us was skin colour and that's not an issue. It was only a year or two ago when muslims were calling for sharia law in Britain and that's disgusting. If you are going to move to a foreign country you should live by their law not try bring in your own.
That is not remotely fucking true. Sure, there are branches of extemist Islam that can be viewed that way but there are branches of extremist Christianity that are equally as offensive. I have some friends who are muslims; they even shake my hand. Again, you're tarring an entire ethnic group with the same brush as a handful of small minded zealots and again, we have people in this country who are Christians who believe that our current laws are too secular.
Okay maybe I was been to harsh on the whole religion, my uncle was raised muslim but he is now a well educated doctor and is now aware that there is no god, no matter what religion. It's good that you have muslim friends I have no problem with that, I think all places benefit from different cultures but it can go too far as is the case with Bradford. I would confidently bet that your muslim friends don't live in huge muslim communities though but instead integrated better into society. Like I was saying before there are westernised muslims and there should be, if they live in a western country they really should embrace their new home rather than segregate themselves inside it. I forgot to ask, are your muslim friends pakistani or better educated such as saudi's?
Ali and Mehmet are Iranian, (though if you ask them and thet dont know you they'll tell you they are Persian). Mahmuna is Pakistani. Suat is Turkish. None of them are extremists or terrorists.
Yes I thought as much, they are better educated and I imagine practice islam in their own way rather to the letter many muslims do. Unfortunately the areas I mention in Bradford aren't like that, they may as well be in pakistan, the women wear the burka and are completely un westernised, many many of them don't even have the common decency to learn English. In my former job as an estimator / QS I went to price works in the area for the local council and I remember knocking on a door and not one person in the house spoke English and been Bradford there were at least 10 people in the house. They sent a young lad down the street to find a neighbour to translate. I have to admit I was disgusted that of the 3 generations or so living there not one of them could speak the tongue of their home country. What annoyed me the most is that they were getting the house redeveloped for free, I can't imagine one of them had ever contributed a penny of tax in their life and it is plain wrong. Which takes us back to how the government created this society for such people to thrive while the rest of us slog our guts out only to say goodbye to at least 20% of our earnings.