Russian hackers

Discussion in 'Everything Else' started by bfun, Jan 3, 2017.

  1. So you want to entirely abolish military intelligence? LOL. Also, the vast majority of the intelligence budget actually goes to contractors. That's where you're going to find the "bloat", not the agencies themselves.
     
  2. #22 cmdrmonkey, Jan 6, 2017
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    Roll military intelligence into the CIA. Fire the contractors. Contractors should not be working in intelligence. It should be all government employees. Our intelligence system badly needs to be simplified and streamlined. It's a complete clusterfuck.

    We had a simpler intelligence system during WW2 with just the OSS that seemed to work better than this shit we have now. The OSS beat the Nazis. This trash intelligence system we have now can't even beat a few dirty men in caves with AK47s.
     
  3. The OSS was separate from the military intelligence groups in WW2. It was military intelligence, not the OSS, that did things like crack Japanese codes in the Pacific and develop programs like the Navajo code talkers. OSS was an espionage group like the CIA, and mainly did spying, sabotage, propaganda, training guerrillas etc. behind enemy lines. Rolling military intelligence groups into the CIA makes zero sense. The whole point of the CIA is that it's independent and not connected to domestic issues or groups.

    Also, what "clusterfuck" are you talking about? Previously you guys acted like U.S. intelligence was all-powerful and had the keys to any information they wanted. Now they're incompetent?
     
  4. Our enemies in the "war on terror" are being determined by contractors. No elected official actually knows who is on the hit list as it's made up everyday by contractors. Pretty freaking crazy really. "We're at war!" "With who?" "We don't really know!" "Carry on."

    Not gonna happen. That would be increasing the size of government and we're entering a reduce and spend more cycle. Politicians always fight over the "size" of government but despite what is said the real size never changes. When the government shrinks the work doesn't go away. It simply gets put into expensive defense contracts. Boom. Smaller government. Then at some point people want to reduce government spending and the opposite happens. The fastest and easiest way to stop spending is to get rid of contractor. Boom. Less government spending. Repeat as needed.
     
  5. Trolls!

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...rdered-campaign-to-influence-us-election.html
     
  6. Influencing the election using Russia Today and social media is business as usual. It's the DNC hack that's egregious. US intelligence is giving CrowStrike's assessment of the hack a high confidence thumbs up. The DNC paid them $268k for the work but wouldn't provide the FBI server access. Seems legit. Given the circumstances I'd give it a high confidence estimate as well. Arguing with the CIA and quoting Wikileaks on twitter is not good.
     
  7. It's interesting though: the amount of right-wing trolling in comments sections at news sites does seem to be noticeably lower after Trump won the election. The check is no longer in the mail.

    As for the FBI and the DNC server, go figure with the shenanigans of Rudy Giuliani and the NYC branch + Comey.
     
  8. #28 AKS, Oct 26, 2017
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  9. So what exactly is new about this story? I thought we've known for over a year that Dems paid for the investigation after Republicans dropped it.
     
  10. I don't think it was common knowledge the Democrats have known since 2010 and conducted faux investigations since then to go along with their recent false accusations. There's also the Clinton/ Holder uranium problem.