Hindsight is 20/20... but this thread is proof that the signs were there. We largely all expected a Bush v Clinton election. We all laughed at how Trump trolled and humiliated Jeb Bush. They are a political dynasty and I cheered Trump on at the time. Bush also had a huge budget and ad money but it didn't matter. It was probably the first sign that the establishment was gonna get fucked. Both the GOP and DNC didn't pick up on it. The DNC went with an establishment candidate running the establishment playbook. For example, celebrities helped Obama in 2008 because he was selling hope and change. I think they hurt Hillary in 2016 because poor people didn't want to be preached to by 1%'ers anymore.
Perfect example of this: Lady Gaga dancing around in a space nazi outfit for HIllary at the exact same time Trump is talking to people about protecting their jobs from outsourcing.
Lena Dunham promised to move to Canada but hasn't, perhaps that should be the focus of your next riot!
Hilarity will ensue when Trump and the GOP pass/sign legislation called 'American Jobs First' that guts any remaining protections against corporate outsourcing.
You're right. Except Trump was telling the people what they wanted to hear, while the Hillary gathering came across as elitest one percenters sneering down their noses at the working class "deplorables" upset that their jobs are being stolen by illegals or shipped overseas to China. Again the DNC have only themselves to blame. They didn't understand what the people wanted, and they shut out the candidate who did. Then they ran a candidate who was the epitome of everything people despise about Washington elites: corrupt, in the pocket of banks and foreign governments like Saudi Arabia, and part of a political dynasty. To win again, the Democratic party needs to get populist and connect with the other 99%. They have become status quo, elitest neocons, who strangely are on the far left when it comes to social stuff and in favor of over the top political correctness to the point of calling anyone who disagrees with them a bigot.
You guys are seriously optimistic seeing this as a GOP victory. That actually wouldn't be as bad as the situation we're in. This is a Trump victory. The GOP haven't been able to, and cannot, control him. They have been elected as his yes men. He's gonna make big moves and they will rubber stamp it.
More like Hillary Clinton spent a lot of time talking about social inclusiveness and equality, and the white working class that either openly or privately considers themselves superior didn't like the sound of it. I guarantee you that Clinton spent more time talking about actual labor issues than Trump did. Yelling about NAFTA or the Trans-Pacific trade deal isn't exactly an in-depth approach. Trump's only real advantage in that area was his total lack of prior public service and non-existent voting record on trade or labor issues. His own actions in the business world show zero interest in being a labor or trade activist.
Doesn't matter if he was being dishonest. He addressed it and said it in a way that average working class people could understand. He told them exactly what they wanted to hear. For a career politician, Hillary is surprisingly bad at being a politician, which is largely about telling people what they want to hear to get elected. Also as I said before the election, pissed off rednecks (aka white working class) are the majority of the electorate. You have to understand what they want to win. A surprising number of them voted for Obama because they were so angry at Bush and his policies and wanted to try something different. Clinton utterly failed to connect with them. Like it's spectacular how much they utterly despised this woman. You can't just go after the transracial, transgender, transpecies vote if you want to win. Your average American voter is a working white dude or white chick. Right now the democratic party is too far to the right on economic stuff like trade deals, and too far to the left on social issues like transgender bathroom rights for your average person. Hillary paid lip service to some of Bernie's economic ideas, but people could see she was being disingenuous and would never follow through. Supersonic and I spent the last year warning you about what was probably going to happen, but at every turn you refused to listen. I think you are still trying to come to terms with it.
Trump locked down the "I'm white, I'm superior" vote, as well as the "I'm not going to vote for a woman" vote. I truly doubt that the "union households" that voted for Trump actually believe he's going to do much for them. They just figure the racist angle will still help them vs. other workers.
Perfect example of why she didn't win. You can't talk down to a huge part of the electorate, calling them racist, sexist, or deplorable and expect to get elected. You can throw insults like that at the other candidate. But calling the other half of the electorate those things is moronic. You are shaming and alienating potential voters. People have also grown tired of reverse racism along with all the other PC crap. Stop blaming everything on white people. You know who also voted for Obama in overwhelming numbers? Lots of white people.
Uneducated white people may be racist and sexist. But they are also poor and unemployed. Their manufacturing jobs are gone and self driving trucks are coming around to take more jobs away. Alterego's reaction is exactly what I'm afraid off on a larger scale. The DNC is going to blame everybody but themselves and get fucked even more. Is Trump the answer for those people? Absolutely not. Those jobs are gone and not coming back. But he talked to them like they mattered and sometimes that's enough. Elitist SJWs cost us net neutrality and a religious zealot on the supreme court at minimum.
I come from a steel town in eastern PA that used to be pretty much the center of the world for steel, was responsible for some of the world's greatest skyscrapers and ships, but was destroyed through the short-sighted greed of executives and outsourcing. My (biological) father worked for Bethlehem Steel for 30 years until he got laid off. The once thriving town is now a dump, and what was previously one of the world's greatest steel mills has become a casino that drains the residents of the little bit of money they have left. I totally get where these people in the rust belt are coming from. I don't think alterego does at all.
It's amazing that you guys are actually trying to characterize Trump as having run a labor oriented campaign all of a sudden. He didn't. At all. He even bragged IN A NATIONALLY TELEVISED DEBATE that he used cheap Chinese steel simply because the government hadn't "forced him" to use steel from the United States. By the way, this link has a list of labor unions that endorsed Clinton...AFL/CIO, Teamsters, AFT, ABEW, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...tial_campaign_endorsements,_2016#Labor_unions Guess what's missing? Fraternal Order of Police. Take a wild guess who they did endorse and why.
This. This is exactly what I knew was going to happen. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...orth-Carolina-victory-rally-Donald-Trump.html Back to racist era folks. Makes me sick.
lol that's a a glorified UK blog site selling clickbait. The KKK has a few thousand members in a country of 300 million... their "rallies" usually end up being 10 people that get beat down by 100 counter-protesters. We'll be alright.
You are correct. That's exactly what it is. There's a large percentage of white people in the United States that don't like to have other citizens speak out or have the same opportunities in life. For example, Black Lives Matter is opposed to unarmed blacks being killed by police in circumstances that don't really support use of lethal force...and that's actually a highly controversial position in white America! It's really pathetic these days.