Trollmander-in-Chief 2.0: The Return

Discussion in 'monkeyCage' started by bfun, Jan 30, 2016.

  1. Your misplaced optimism reminds me of the tea baggers talking about Benghazi 4 years ago.
     
  2. lol I wouldn't be surprised if the DNC ran two time loser HRC in 4 years.
     
  3. #503 cmdrmonkey, Jul 13, 2017
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    She'll be a three time loser if that's the case. Wouldn't surprise me at all though. They still don't understand why they lost.
     
  4. HRC had the perfect strategy, calling half of the voters she hadn't yet convinced to vote for her "deplorable" bigots. A surefire way to convince voters to make you the most powerful politician on the planet is to tell them what horrible bigots you think they are, especially in a very close race.
     
  5. Jared Kushner just threw Donald Trump Jr. under the bus. Bigly.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...r-under-the-bus-bigly/?utm_term=.af0298d64538
     
  6. #506 cmdrmonkey, Jul 25, 2017
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  7. I just want to say, with all this drama surrounding Jeff Sessions at the moment, if he resigns or is removed, I will consider it a win. Maybe we can get an AG that doesn't want to go all in on the Drug war all over again.
     
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  8. Sessions supported Trump long before anyone else did. Apparently this attack on him is really bothering other loyalist. I'm sure many are wondering who will be next and for what reason.
     
  9. That sucks. I'm gonna miss the Mooch.
     
  10. Sessions needs to go. I can't think of any redeeming thing he has done since becoming AG. 100% bad, outdated ideology.
     
  11. #516 cmdrmonkey, Aug 16, 2017
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    Nazis are bad
    The KKK is bad
    The Confederacy was bad
    Driving while black not punishable by death

    Extreme viewpoints from the radical alt-left
     
  12. #518 cmdrmonkey, Aug 19, 2017
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    The big problem I have with the free speech argument when it comes to hate groups like the Nazis or the Klan: I don't think they're actually interested in having a conversation. They just want to incite violence and cause chaos. It's similar to yelling "fire!" in a crowded theater.
     
  13. The entire basis of the free speech argument is that people will make asses of themselves without any outside help. Let a Nazi speak and everyone will hear just how stupid their ideas are. Punch a Nazi and you have now committed political violence and created a victim of that violence.

    Perfect example of this is from Charlottesville. The video of their uninhibited night march was far more damning for their movement than the video from the next day where they are getting beaten with sticks by protesters.
     
  14. #520 cmdrmonkey, Aug 20, 2017
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    That's why I have mixed feelings about this. The VICE interview actually got them talking, and exposed them for the huge scumbags they are. I think it also revealed to the world that this new wave of White Nationalism is basically the same as the old one. The problem is when they had their rally in Charlottesville, they murdered someone. In Boston, they were quickly run out of town by a massive non-violent group, and nobody got killed. So I guess the answer is get them talking in a more controlled setting like an interview so people can hear how dumb their ideas are, and when they do try to incite violence in a public place, respond with massive non-violent protests that run them out of town. Trying to brawl with them like Antifa is not the answer. It just makes you look bad. Free speech does have limits. You can't use it to incite violence. Fighting words are not protected speech. Inciting chaos like yelling fire in a theater is not protected speech. And in protected cases, it just protects you from arrest. It doesn't mean that people actually have to listen to your crap. What comes out of the Nazis and the Klan seems to be mostly fighting words, which is not protected speech.

    In summary:

    Having an interview with a reporter from VICE where you express your ideas = protected free speech

    Going to the center of town in Nazi regalia with a gun and yelling "all Niggers must die!" = fighting words = not protected speech