Trump seals the deal by getting 1238 delegates. Crooked Hiliary hasn't officially clinched it but will be the winner. Between a cartoonishly evil politician and a reality TV clown, I'm not sure the least worst candidate is obvious.
I'm not pro-Hillary but I think my aversion to news these days has made me miss the reason as to why she's been labeled as dishonest. At least more so than the average politician. Is it just the email server thing?
Big bucks from "speeches" to Wall St. banking and financial firms is one issue. The dishonest part there is that they try and pretend that there isn't any pay-to-play going on…that the person getting paid is just a really, really, really, REALLY good speaker and deserves millions for it.
Ah I get it. Sort of a way to get campaign donations without any accountability. She can't be the first person to do this.
It isn't anything new, but $153 million in 15 years is an eye-opener... http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/05/politics/hillary-clinton-bill-clinton-paid-speeches/
I can understand why people voted for Brexit. I would not be happy if my government was sending billions of dollars to a government in Brussels I had no say in electing. Americans fought a war of independence against that kind of thing. I think people are also getting tired of living in a weak pussy country when Britain used to be a world spanning empire. I also would not want to be taking in a bunch of Syrian refugees. I know many of them are victims, but it is also so easy for ISIS to slip in agents and fuck shit up. Voting for Brexit is also a big fuck you to the world political establishment, which I can totally understand. I think people are underestimating Trump the same way they underestimated Brexit. A lot of people are extremely pissed off at the political establishment and see voting for a Trump as a way to say fuck you. I'm actually starting to lean towards voting for Trump. Not because I agree with him (I voted for Sanders in the primary), but because he would be a destructive, chaotic force that would send a message to the corrupt political establishment in Washington that we are tired of their bullshit. Don't want to listen to us? Fine, we'll vote in an orange reality TV clown who will burn everything to the ground. A vote for Hillary is a vote for more of the same. Sanders could have actually made things better, but the corrupt Democratic Party with their superdelegates and Wall Street donors made sure he was never going to happen, and I'd rather not vote than vote for Shillary. She's the embodiment of a crooked career politician with pockets full of dirty Wall Street money,
If you're fine with the potential destruction and chaos of a Trump presidency, what exactly is it about the corrupt politicians that bothers you?
Everything Let's start with how they only represent the wealthiest 1%. Why has no one who orchestrated the 2008 financial collapse gone to prison? Why don't we have universal healthcare? Why isn't college affordable or free? Why isn't housing affordable? Why are our taxes so high when they don't seem to help the average person in any way? Why do our schools suck so much when we pay such high taxes? Why is our military spending so wasteful? Why do we incarcerate so many non-violent offenders for such long sentences in mostly private prisons? Why are we carrying out multi-trillion dollar wars abroad when our country is falling apart? Literally because our infrastructure is old and collapsing. Why are corporations and the super rich getting tax breaks that they don't need? Why aren't companies who outsource American jobs to save a few bucks treated like traitorous scum, and punished severely? Why do we send so much money and aid to countries that hate us and do nothing for us in return? I could go on all day. Fuck our corrupt political establishment that no longer represents the common man. Maybe voting for an orange reality TV clown who shits on everything will finally make them listen. That he is bringing down the Republican Party who caused many of these problems in the first place is just an added bonus. We could have done things the right way with Sanders, but the establishment wouldn't let us have him. So it's time to do things the dirty way. Or you can vote for a career politician who thinks everything is just peachy, is basically a traditional establishment Republican in her views despite running as a Democrat, and wouldn't change a thing.
@alterego A Trump presidency would destroy the Republican Party once and for all and disrupt the political establishment in Washington. Both of those sound like wins for the common man to me.
How does a Republican winning the White House with a majority Republican Congress and an 8 judge Supreme Court equal the destruction of the Republican party?
If Trump is elected, the GOP will do exactly the same thing that it does on the state level: speed run GOP legislation through Congress, and Trump is going to sign most of it (since, as you said, he's an opportunist and has no real stance either way). They'll also speed run the new Supreme Court appointment. Electing Trump isn't going to break the GOP. It's just going to give them the golden opportunity to destroy pretty much anything they choose, and have the SC as a backup.
@supersonic I've long wished that our ballot had a "none of the above" option, meaning you don't think either candidate is fit for office, and you want a new election with different candidates. Lesser of the two evils elections are lame. I would pick that for the current presidential election. I think a lot of people would. It's not unheard of either. Some places do have this option on ballots, including Nevada and a few countries: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/None_of_the_above
I can't either. Hillary = establishment center right Wall Street shill Republican running as a Democrat Trump = opportunistic businessman/troll running as a Republican I've been tempted to vote for the troll out of anger, but on second thought I probably just won't vote. These are really the best candidates a country of 300M+ people could come up with?
If Trump wins, he will have done so in opposition to the entire power structure of the GOP. The Party threw everything and the kitchen sink at him to stop him from getting nominated, and now they've split over whether they want to throw the election to Hillary or help him win. The Republican Party, as an organization, will continue to exist, but the entire power structure is going to get purged. This could be as momentous as the Progressive movement tearing apart the Republican Party in the early 20th century and taking over the Democrats. It would also realign the political spectrum from being primarily about big vs small government to nationalism vs globalism, which hasn't actually been a debate in American politics since the early 20th century.