Trollmander-in-Chief 2.0: The Return

Discussion in 'monkeyCage' started by bfun, Jan 30, 2016.

  1. In many, many situations I'd agree, but I think this money is very likely to be spent on necessities by most people and also obviously go right back into the economy. I don't see the typical Average Joe with a family hiding this cash in a basement in a box or sending it to secret offshore accounts. Most of it would probably go to food and supplies right away assuming you can find them in a store or online currently.
     
  2. When they do these direct checks, it's not to help families, but to get poor people spending again. There needs to be a household income cap because people with higher salaries might just pocket it which won't be good.

    Our entire way of life is dependent on poor people buying junk they don't need with money they don't have.
     
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  3. I’m my lifetime I recall this happening twice. After 9/11/2001 and again around 2007-2008.

    Did not work both times. I expect this will be no different.

    The ongoing QE buybacks from the fed will help though.
     
  4. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...zona-coronavirus-chloroquine-death/index.html

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/texas...-willing-to-die-to-save-economy-for-grandkids

    I’m sure we’ve all seen these by now. Trump really is the troller in chief. Maybe the greatest of all trolls.

    Look, I’ve talked a lot of trash online and elsewhere, but I don’t think mizzle ever had an actual death cult following him around strangling themselves with wiimote cords.

    Of course, I’m sure the generation that dodged the Vietnam war, sold off the American dream for a gallon of gas, and created a spinning continent of garbage in the pacific will absolutely start sacrificing now for future generations.


     
  5. As far as public perception, it's a no win scenario. If the curve is successfully flattened, it will look like we overreacted. If the curve is not flattened, it will seem like we didn't do enough. It's like deciding if people should evacuate for hurricanes.
     
  6. For months I’ve been hearing how crazy Bernie Sanders was. His policies are crazy. We can’t afford any of the things he says.

    Then like a month later the government prints $4.3 trillion out of thin air.

    Lol.
     
  7. #727 cmdrmonkey, Apr 11, 2020
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    We could easily afford all of it if the political will was there. If we can make trillions appear out of thin air we can have a public option for healthcare and make college free or super cheap.
     
  8. #728 cmdrmonkey, Apr 11, 2020
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    He's not the last chance. Just the last chance for right now. Look at how progressive the millenial gen politicians are like Beto, Mayor Pete, AOC, Tulsi Gabbard. That's the future. In a decade someone like that could be president. Bernie’s ideas are only radical among baby boomers. They’re mainstream with the younger generations. The boomers won’t be around forever.
     
  9. You know, there’s an idea I’ve been kicking around in my head for a day or two...

    Trump is running this country based on The Office television show. The American one not the British one.

    Currently, I have two pieces of supporting evidence:

    Pam and Jim’s wedding:
    Nana rants about the promiscuity of modern women and says something like “This country used to be great”.

    Kevin why use lot words when few words:
    When Jim asks Kevin if he is saying sea world or see world, Kevin emphasizes “Chy Na” when clarifying.

    Trump is, at times, channeling different characters of the show. He throws tantrums like Micheal, demands authority like Dwight, bumbles around like Creed, grabs pussy like Packer, claims Jesus like Angela... nobody knows what he’s talking about like Robert California or Ryan, sleeps around like Meredith, is fat and slovenly like Kevin, bald like Kevin, doesn’t really work like Jim, and has boobs like Kevin. I was gonna say Pam’s Pam-pams but cmon. Those are surely delightful.

    Hopefully he doesn’t get as many seasons.


     
  10. 2020 just doesn't let up

     
  11. That and Kanye is running for POTUS.


     
  12. #732 cmdrmonkey, Jul 7, 2020
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    There's no way Ghislaine Maxwell will ever be allowed to testify. She will be "suicided" just like her boyfriend and fellow kid diddler Epstein.
     
  13. That was under a more competent administration and a normal year. In this “let it burn” climate of 2020, I give her a 50/50 chance.


     
  14. #734 cmdrmonkey, Aug 9, 2020
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    Trump probably just won himself reelection with his covid relief executive orders. He made the Democrats in the house and senate look like they can't get anything done and are willing to let Americans go homeless over politics. Also due to the recency effect people will probably remember this more than his screw ups with downplaying the virus early in the pandemic.

    Also I think the BLM and defund the police stuff is backfiring on the Democrats. They come away looking like they support rioting anarchists who want chaos. I think the police have serious problems with brutality and militarization and need to be reformed to more of a public servant role. But the current movement for this is a mess and I think it's divisive and out of step with most of the country.

    I also just can't imagine large numbers of people will turn out to vote for Biden. The polls have been off in the past two elections. And just because large numbers of people hate Trump doesn't mean they are going to vote for Biden. Trump also has an extremely loyal fanbase that will vote for him.

    I think a lot of people are about to have their minds blown when Trump easily wins reelection.
     
  15. Regarding BLM backfiring on the D, there has been a surge in voter registrations since the protests started. During the early months of the pandemic, registrations were a bit depressed. By all accounts, the surge in registrations is in favor of the Democrats while Republican registrations have flatlined.

    Really though, who knows? I think a lot of people’s minds were made up on this election a long time ago. They either do not want more Trump and are alarmed at his administration, or they can’t get enough of his style. Recent events are perhaps just spurring them to actual action? Whatever the case, the numbers are going the Democrats way.

    But maybe Trump puts himself on Rushmore, arrests all the new registrants and poor people, and loses all the mail for the next six months. He might win then.


     
  16. #736 cmdrmonkey, Aug 11, 2020
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    Biden just sealed his fate with a running mate no one really likes who is basically a black version of Hillary Clinton. Warren or Sanders would have gotten young progressive voters to turn out. Kamala Harris is a dud. She was a dud in the primaries. Even black people and women don't like her.
     
  17. Kamala Harris was also nuked out of the race by Tulsi Gabbard within a couple of minutes. Who is worried about competing with "Heels Up" Harris? I can't imagine the Sanders crowd is feeling enthusiastic about this, either. The VP usually isn't particularly important, but with Biden she may end up serving more of his term than him.

     
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  18. #738 cmdrmonkey, Aug 11, 2020
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    @mizzle

    We are living in bizarro world now where a narcissistic orange reality TV conman/game show host guy is running the country, so who knows what crazy thing will happen next. It's possible that Trump hate is so strong at this point that the Democrats having a pretty lame ticket won't matter and Biden will still get elected. We do have unemployment on a massive scale not seen since the Great Depression and a deadly virus running rampant that Trump's incompetence played a big role in worsening.
     
  19. Could be. Biden has the numbers right now is all I’m saying. And he has for a while. Not to mention he is stronger than Clinton in ‘16, moving outside of that margin of error that doomed her.

    There’s a lot of reasons for it. Whether it’s Trump invading Portland and shooting moms, to Trump invading churches to gas priests, or Trump giving a pass to Putin on soldier bounties, or the massive unemployment, or the coronavirus response, or California voters moving to other states, or Trumps relationships with Epstein and wishing Ghislaine well, or his trade wars that hurt Midwest farmers... honestly, Biden doesn’t have to do much besides show up.

    He was already terrible in the primary debates and ran away with the nomination. Trump may be appealing to his base, but there are less boomers than ever and Gen X and Millennial voters aren’t really Republicans.

    Remember, Trump isn’t really all that popular to begin with, his people are just loud and noticeable. If there is actually anyone left who is still so undecided that Harris is their tipping point, that’d be something. But it’s true, people really don’t like this guy. They would give dubya a third term if it would get rid of him.

    The fact that Trump campaign members are moonlighting for Kanye should tell you all you need to know. They think Democrat hip hop fans are going to turn away from Biden and head West in states like Wisconsin and Michigan? Pennsylvania? Might work in Florida, though.