Trollmander-in-Chief 2.0: The Return

Discussion in 'monkeyCage' started by bfun, Jan 30, 2016.

  1. LOL @ throwing the election. If anything, the democrats are actively throwing the easiest election ever. They're going with an extermly polarizing, unlikable woman, who is transparently corrupt and under federal investigation. She's going to get the straight-dem and 'not Trump' voter. Anybody else is a coin flip and she could very easily lose. Feminists aren't particularly fond of her and neither are gays.

    In comparison, there is not much for democrats to dislike about Sanders, and he could also bag the anti-establishment vote from independents. That would likely help him crush Trump but the fix has been in on Shillary since day 1.
     
  2. You keep saying that gays don't support Clinton, but that isn't really accurate.

    http://www.advocate.com/election/20...vote-hillary-clinton-will-his-lgbt-supporters

    "Both Sanders and Clinton are LGBT rights supporters. Clinton has received the endorsement of the Human Rights Campaign, the nation’s largest and most influential LGBT organization. Most polls have found her leading among LGBT voters, but Sanders does have a strong base of LGBT support. In February a Community Marketing and Insights survey covering 46 states found 48 percent of LGBT Americans favoring Clinton, 41 percent in the Sanders camp."
     
  3. #63 cmdrmonkey, Jul 1, 2016
    Last edited: Jul 1, 2016
    I'm not sure that gays trust Clinton to protect them from Islam. After Orlando, Trump was actually talking about doing that. Clinton was talking about Islamophobia, whatever that is. As if the Muslims are the real victims and not all the people they shoot and blow up when they come down with Sudden Jihad Syndrome because they feel terribly triggered by a Christmas party or two men kissing.

    It's odd to me that liberals stand up for Islam. It's diametrically opposed to pretty much all liberal values. These are people who execute gays and treat women worse than shit. And feminists love to talk about rape culture. Islamic countries are real rape cultures where women are punished (usually forced to marry their rapist) or killed for being raped. I think we need to stop looking at Islam as a religion and regard it as a dangerous ideology similar to Nazism. And the idea of moderate Islam is mostly just a liberal myth. And I get the impression a lot of people in Britain feel the same way. A big part of Brexit was that many British don't want to be living under Sharia Law in a few years. And getting out of the EU was a first step in stopping all of the Muslim immigration.

    I also agree with Trump on nationalism vs globalization. Globalization/outsourcing is horseshit that was used by the rich to destroy the middle class and ruin the US economy. We need to go back to building things in America and looking out for our own interests. Corporations and rich assholes have been selling us out to the Chinese and the Mexicans for too long. Shillary is very pro outsourcing and globalization, which is one of many reasons she disgusts me.
     
  4. You do realize that Trump is basically in hock to Deutsche Bank, right? You might want to consider that a bit before thinking he has any real ideas about globalization.
     
  5. #65 cmdrmonkey, Jul 1, 2016
    Last edited: Jul 1, 2016
    So you're pro outsourcing now? Hillary loves NAFTA and outsourcing and her Wall Street masters who fill her pockets with dirty money love those things too. She wants to get rid of all the middle class jobs and put everyone on welfare. Trump wants to actually put people back to work.
     
  6. Huh? I've never said that I was "pro outsourcing". I'm saying that Trump is a piss-poor option when it comes to anything related to economics or globalization. He has no track record of being a public servant, and his private sector record is full of labor relations problems, huge loans from globalized banks, tax shenanigans, and refusing to pay people for the work they did. Considering that his current fame is based around a show where he fires people, I really have no idea why anyone who was sane would consider Trump as a viable source of helpful ideas in those areas.
     
  7. And Shillary has a track record of being pro-globalization, pro-outsourcing and fucking over the American worker at every turn.
     
  8. Of course... they had to purchase quickly before the queue was on backorder.

    "This week the Human Rights Campaign (HRC), the largest LGBT group, endorsed Hillary Clinton for president. It was a bit of a shocker not because HRC endorsed a Democrat — the group has only endorsed Democratic presidential candidates, as the GOP has always been hostile toward LGBT rights — but that it occurred before even one vote has been cast in the Democratic primaries and while two hugely gay-supportive candidates are so close in the polls in the first contests."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michelangelo-signorile/this-week-the-human-right_b_9030106.html
     
  9. So you read an article that says "two hugely gay supportive candidates" and came to the conclusion that gays don't like Clinton?
     
  10. LOL she only started supporting gay rights recently since it was convenient for her. People don't like that kind of two faced shit. I actually didn't know this, but my one (and only) gay friend told me. In the end they might vote for her but in the lesser of two evils sort of way. They certainly don't cheerleader her. She can only really count on the straight-dem and not Trump voter.
     
  11. Talking about Clinton's track record isn't proof that Trump is actually better in those areas. You're the one trying to make that argument. Where's the proof?
     
  12. When you say "recently", what do you mean? This year? Last year?
     
  13. She was against don't ask don't tell, supported DOMA, and was against gay marriage until like three years ago. She's completely two faced on gay rights.
     
  14. In preparation for this election... so probably 2 years ago.

    All I'm saying is the democrats could've found someone like-able and run away with this election. Instead, you have a coin flip... all Trump has to do is get a small surge of people wanting to roll the dice and he wins. From the Brexit fallout, it seems they under-estimated how many people will be all "fuck it lets see what happens".
     
  15. #75 cmdrmonkey, Jul 1, 2016
    Last edited: Jul 1, 2016
    I don't agree with Trump on every issue, but he's at least right about some things like nationalism vs globalism. I don't like Hillary or agree with her on much of anything. She's basically an establishment center right conservative running as a Democrat. She doesn't seem to really believe in anything. She's a career politician who will say whatever it takes to get elected and would change nothing.

    I also just don't like her as a person. Trump is at least an amusing and charismatic troll. She comes across as a grumpy pants suit wearing power lesbian.

    If the Democrats had run Bernie Sanders instead of rigging everything in favor of Shillary with the superdelegates, they would easily have my vote. I actually liked Bernie and agreed with him on most things.
     
  16. So, in a nutshell, you think she's out to destroy your gaming hobby through feminism. Things are becoming clearer.
     
  17. #78 cmdrmonkey, Jul 1, 2016
    Last edited: Jul 1, 2016
    You jest but feminists like Anita Sarkeesian and Zoey Quinn really are out to destroy our hobby as a way to punish men.

    Also third wave feminism is bullshit. It's a misandrist female supremacy movement that has nothing to do with equality, and everything to do with special treatment for women and the hatred, punishment, and subjugation of men.

    Egalitarianism is the movement that's actually about equality, not feminism. Feminism is a hate/supremacy movement pretending to be about equality.
     
  18. #80 cmdrmonkey, Jul 1, 2016
    Last edited: Jul 2, 2016
    She's a career politician who just says whatever she thinks will get her elected. Gay rights are popular now so she now claims she supports gay rights.

    She also voted for the War in Iraq because that was popular at the time.

    Her judgement is shit, she doesn't really believe in anything, and she's a flip flopper.