We saw all sorts of lies in the Brexit. There was a campaign to make political campaigns have to abide similar rules to advertising, which seems sensible. The post-factual world of politics is pretty scary.
Clinton is a liar too. She claims to support all of these progressive policies ($15 min wage, anti-TPP, etc) because she needs the younger, more progressive wing of the party that voted for Bernie Sanders. Except that her voting record is nearly indistinguishable from your average Republican, making it practically guaranteed she will flip flop on all of that stuff. Politically the choices this election are a moderate neoconservative Republican vs an apparent fascist/demagogue/white nationalist who admires Putin. After this Russia stuff, I will vote for Hillary as the lesser of two evils. I think there's too much at stake here to not vote. Trump is off his rocker and doesn't have the temperament or mental stability to run a country. Having him control the world's most powerful arsenal is scary. Trump would also overturn the progressive stuff Obama put into place and appoint bad supreme court justices. I think we also have to ask why Putin likes Trump so much and is helping him. I think he sees a dumber version of himself who he can control easily and who would pull out of NATO. Hillary is still evil. She's just the lesser evil of your everyday crooked career politician. Problem is people in this country hate career politicians with a passion and don't see political experience as a virtue, probably because our political system is so dirty.
Hillary's speech started off kind of weak, but she got better as she went, claims to have adopted a lot of Bernie's policies, and actually started to crack some decent jokes towards the end. I still think she needs to work on likability and charisma before the debates, but she seems to be getting better at giving speeches.
She is a war mongering asshole who is gonna agitate a proxy war with Russia via Syria. Fuck that noise.
@supersonic Look, I enjoyed the Trump Troll Train too. Watching him bully his way through the Republican Party was one of the most glorious things I've ever seen in the world of politics and couldn't have happened to a more deserving group of assholes. But the joke is about to go too far. Who is actually going to be President? If Hillary is at all serious about implementing some of Bernie's policies, it makes her easier to stomach. Bernie was a good man who wanted good things for the country. He was the only decent person running in this election. Unfortunately the douche vs turd song is right. Good people rarely make it to the finish line in modern American politics, and it always seems to come down to a douche vs a turd.
You're not wrong. I will pick independent or green, which in my state is a proxy vote for SHillary. It gets the job done and still conveys a dissatisfaction with the candidates.
How is Trump polling over there? We always get the party political support breakdown going into elections; it's never that accurate but I'm curious to know the level of support Trump has.
Clinton is currently leading. Trump got a boost after the RNC. Clinton then got a boost after the DNC and is now in the lead. The optimistic tone of the DNC seemed to resonate with people more than Trump's doom and gloom at the RNC. I also think Trump's joke about Russian hacking went over very badly. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/polls.html http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll-idUSKCN1092M5
Trump's having fundraising issues. The rumor is that a lot of guys in the billionaire club want to see Trump pony up some of his own cash first before they donate theirs. The Koch brothers who are worth about $100 Billion and are one of the largest republican campaign donor are saying they wont help him no matter what. Time will tell if that's a problem or not but Trump will eventually need about $1.5 to $3 Billion. Trump says he's worth 10 Billion but he also lies a lot.
Holy shit! That is an insane amount of money on a coin flip... no wonder we get the candidates we do. No rational human being would take those odds.
Trumps numbers should take a tumble next week. He's made a few idiotic mistakes this week. I think the any publicity is good campaign he's been running has ended. lol I didn't realize this is how polling worked. Seems so archaic.
I should'n't have questioned his allegiance to the troll. It seemed like he was gonna toe the GOP line, but clearly picking Mike Pence was to setup a troll within a troll. Pence has to walk back all the garbage Trump says but on eggshells because he's the VP. I hope he's able to complete a trollception 3 levels deep before November.
He has elevated the troll game to new heights. I hope that one day I can be even half the troll that Trump is.
He and his campaign have been talking about violence for awhile. I don't have any doubt that they wouldn't actually mind if someone followed through on it. It's the ultimate direction of the GOP anyway: overthrow of democratic government. http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/09/remember-trump-adviser-promised-bloodbath-lost.html