Trollmander-in-Chief 2.0: The Return

Discussion in 'monkeyCage' started by bfun, Jan 30, 2016.

  1. Squeaky bum time.
     
  2. #242 cmdrmonkey, Nov 8, 2016
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    Our ballot also had a pot bill for medical marijuana. I voted in favor of it.

    There was also a bill trying to make it so you can't share solar energy you generate with others. The power companies were in favor of it. I voted against it.
     
  3. Intrigued. Yet terrified to google it at work.
     
  4. Legalizing pot is the way to go. I'm not a smoker but the financial benifits of making it legal are huge. Colorado netted $125 million in pot taxes last year and saved about $40 million more in the judicial system with a 95% drop in possession prosecutions.
     
  5. #245 cmdrmonkey, Nov 8, 2016
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    This is looking really dire. Trump is winning Florida and Ohio. I don't think Hillary can win without those states.

    This is exactly what I feared: the bigoted white trailer trash turned out in huge numbers. The minorities and millennials stayed home.
     
  6. At least you guys can share the what I felt on Brexit result day. Fucking hell, 2016 is the worst. I hope Clinton turns it around but it's not looking good.
     
  7. They may as well just call it for Trump. She's even losing in places like Pennsylvania and New Hampshire where Democrats usually win.

    Our country is fucked.
     
  8. #249 cmdrmonkey, Nov 9, 2016
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    The DNC have only themselves to blame. Bernie would have gotten the millennials, minority voters, and rust belt working class whites that Hillary failed to lock down. Instead they threw an easy election by running an unlikable and transparently corrupt woman who is part of the Washington establishment at a time when people are tired of the status quo.
     
  9. I don't think Bernie would have done it from what I've seen of how the wider population responds to more left leaning ideas; the UK's equivalent has struggled to gain much of the popular vote here and we're more open to those political ideas. Any standard democratic candidate would have edged it I feel.

    This is the triumph of ignorance and fear. I think a part of it is how our economies have failed the majority but, in both Brexit and Trump, the people have chosen a wildcard that will make them worse off. And there's the problem; what do you blame when everything gets worse? Welcome to more fascist rhetoric and more denial. Things have gotten worse here and I suspect they will for you too.

    I hope this is all a blip in the world but it doesn't feel like it. It's all a bit terrifying if you stop and think about it. Hopefully, it won't be as bad as many fear but I thought the same about Brexit and that hasn't been good.

    Still, at least you can enjoy feeling like a stranger in your own land. That's real fun.
     
  10. True. I would agree that people are angry and frustrated with the status quo to the point where they would rather vote for a potentially very dangerous wild card than for more of the same.
     
  11. I'm not sure how I feel. I didn't want him as president. But I made an out of the money speculative bet for the lolz. It's value is nothing to lol at now.... Futures are getting halted. I expect us market will open so low it'll get halted within minutes. This is going to be bad. Companies that manufacture offshore are gonna get pummeled. Hope nobody is counting on their 401k the next few months.

    So sick. I actually feel bad for HC for the first time ever.
     
  12. The media was definitely shilling hard for Hillary. To the point of putting out extremely biased polls that were way off.
     
  13. That's an interesting difference between Brexit and this; our press is much more right leaning and the TV news tends to be quite neutral. From here, it seemed that the overall media were much towards the Democrats. Was that the case?
     
  14. I agree. They backed the wrong horse and were more interested in making history then winning.

    Instead they have let trump win and in doing so utterly destroyed Obama's legacy.

    I feel so bad for Obama. He's been replaced by the guy that harassed him for being from Kenya. And is going to disassemble his signature policy.

    I didn't always agree with him ideologically but he's a good guy who tried to do what he thought was right. I think that matters to voters. Bernie Sanders was a good guy. I think he would've beat trump.
     
  15. I don't think he would have because a lot of what he stands for has been demonised by successive governments. Both Trump and Bernie represented something new but what Bernie stood would have been a much tougher sell to a wider population that often thinks more equality is hard line socialism/communism. The Trump position, like Brexit, is much more nebulous and plays on people's fears. Here's some slogans, that'll do. Like I sad though, the worse thing is what happens next when, in all likelihood, nothing changes and things get worse.
     
  16. #257 cmdrmonkey, Nov 9, 2016
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  17. lol turns out it is Hillary who won't concede tonight....

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  18. It's over. Clinton has conceded.
     
  19. Twice this year now I have woken up to a shock result, once again I really didn't expect that to happen.

    Looks like the Mayan calendar was a few years out when it predicted the end of the world.